Friday, January 22, 2016

"Interesting" Weather Around the Corner?

The possibility of a somewhat significant snow event exists late Sunday into Monday according to local forecasters. While it will no doubt be a tiny fraction of the snow falling in the Mid-Atlantic, it will bring some interest to a winter that's been rather boring in Minnesota. Record your thoughts here!

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  1. Here is my prediction. Dave Dahl will forecast 18 inches, people here will get breathless, then he'll back off, and they'll call him a fraud.

    Then two inches will fall, which is what Wunderground is forecasting. Then the complaining will ensue, and the cursing of El Nino, and the "why can't we get a Noreaster?"

    And then Bill will have to call the wahmbulance for you guys.

    I have to admit I'm kind of surprised there's much mention of snow in Minnesota. Even Paul Huttner, never one to shy away from a good frenzy, is completely ignoring our weather in favor of the sh*tstorm happening out east. That's kind of a good sign for snow-haters, really. You guys seen the massive coastal flooding they're getting in New Jersey? Looks bad, real bad.

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    1. You forgot having a Novak video calling for a sharp gradient cut off somewhere over the metro. Maybe a dry slot too. And yes we will get 2 inches.

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    2. Hey, I really like Novak. I think he's the best meteorologist in Minnesota. His videos are great, and they really people like me understand all the variables that go into forecasting. It's fascinating stuff and Novak does a great job explaining it.

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  2. Good to see Anonymous kicks off the conversation on a positive note. Yep, seems focus is out East which I suppose is justified to a point as MSP Airport starting yesterday had many cancelled flights mainly from out east. Regarding Minnesota snow chances the hint has been there a few days with yesterday and last nights runs starting to hone in a bit more. They all have a surface low across the Central Plains but definitely differing on the location of the snow band. Either way, its more due to mid/upper level frontogenesis which is best depicted in vertical cross sections not typically available on wx model websites. The trend has been a slight push of the snow area to the NW with the GFS and NAM the closest to the Twin Cities with St. Cloud in the bonus area at the moment. Key is the big upper level disturbance moving ashore in the PAC NW which will drive this system. Once ashore, a better feel for what is really going on will then feed into the model runs.

    Meanwhile, pretty boring with temps in the 20s today and around 30° F on Sunday before the system approaches. A nice freshening of the landscape would be nice even if a few inches of snow.

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  3. I'm calling it right now...Sharp NW/SE snow gradient across the MSP metro on Monday. Surprised? ;-)

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  4. I have to admit one of the things I really miss since moving to the Twin Cities is being in the middle of a big storm, newsworthy storms. At least one Noreaster would hit every winter. But the one that hit yesterday takes the cake. Back home where I grew up just received 24-30" on Long Island, that's huge!! All hype was definitely warranted and funny thing the NAM nailed their forecast, which most say is garbage..not GFS or EURO!
    Back here I hope the metro sees the most of Mondays snow(right now doesn't look promising)because I'm sure when my brother reports in my lead probably dwindled to nothing!

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    1. I'm surprised you'd still have a lead. But wait, you gave him some inches this year?

      I, too, miss the excitement of a nor'easter. When it snows there, it really snows. Not the relative dustings that Minnesota gets....

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    2. No Bill, he gave me inches this year...he gave me a 12 point inch spread. But get this earlier this week I told him he would be pounded with a epic storm with at least 12+ inches of snow...he didn't believe me and said if they get at least a foot he would increase my spread by four...so 16". So before the storm started I had 17" with the 12" spread.....so my lead was 29-1. He lives in central NJ but is on Long Island this weekend visiting family...so I don't have an report from his backyard but I checked their NWS site and his city was reporting 18" at 3pm....it snowed several hours more so I'm sure his final number will be 20+.....so since he got more then a foot I got an additional four inches.... score is 33 to 20-something!

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    3. As a fellow East Coast transplant (I grew up in Delaware an hour south of Philly) I too miss the epic nor'easters. I have many fond memories of the big storms that typical hit in February. I recall several large snowstorms over the years that struck around Valentine's Day. However, I enjoy the persistent cold and snow cover of Minnesota. The big melt back home will kick off tomorrow. They will be near 50 degrees by Tuesday. We always had to get out and enjoy the snow quickly before it melted away. If it was a lot colder at home during the winter I would have thought long and hard about moving from there. I guess in the end it's a trade off. I do wish Minnesota, particularly the metro, had more snowstorms though!!

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  5. Weather Underground is calling for 6-12" in a week! NWS has called it "something to watch". I don't care if it's still a week out...it's fun to have a storm to follow!

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  6. I've been watching this time frame for the last couple of days. The AO,NAO,PNA and EPO are currently strongly positive to positive and are forecast to crash around the end of the month. While they will crash they shouldn't dip much below than neutral. That is important as temps should stay close to normal, as cold arctic air shouldn't come crashing in suppressing the storm tack that much. The MJO is also forecast to move into phase 4 which at this time of the year is a wet signal for us. I wished I knew how the MJO worked a little bit better than I do, but it has to do with tropical forcing. It seems as if the stars may be trying to align to bring a strong system into the north central or upper midwest. It's way to early to talk specifics, but it may be interesting to watch. I don't dare mention what the 01/24 12z run of the euro showed.

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    1. Oh, c'mon, RandyinChamplin -- -you 'fraid to say what the ECWMF from this AM outputted in its whopper throw down for next week?! :-) I've already seen some chatter with hache tags and all for the 'potential' of next week per ECWMF. Entertaining. But, definitely interesting to watch. While watching poor Arizona getting blown out by Carolina, I was bored and did a dt/dp of the various progs to see trends/patterns. GFS last three runs must have peeked at the ECWMF test and its now answering a few questions a little more similar. Let's see what happens. I have a feeling Bill will need to separate into a new blog after tomorrow's Twin Cities dusting but plowable in west central and central Minnesota event. (Even a little extra in SE MN, too.)

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  7. NOTHING "interesting" today for the metro, if you call an inch interesting. Rest of the week boring and thawing and groundhog day storm is a nonfactor now. So uninteresting weather continues.

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  8. USA Today is saying that the east coast has another chance at a big storm at the end of the week. They quoted Accuweather. Looking at the GFS I see nothing all that close. Am I missing something? Sorry, nothing to talk about in MN.

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  9. There was some chatter on the previous thread about January being a typical January. I would disagree with that, January is suppose to be the snowiest month with a coating tonight we may creep past 4"(currently 3.3" has fallen). Also January is only 1° below average for the month and with a five day thaw approaching(Wednesday thru Sunday) that deficit will be erased. January used to be a harsh month with well below average temperatures, plenty of subzero lows and cold highs with an endless parade of clippers dropping a few inches each time. Not this year!

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    1. Don't say that.
      RandyHill is never wrong, if you dare criticize him you are in trouble...
      Still LOL...

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    2. @Thomas, your right about the warmer temps this year but it's due to EL Nino. It's pretty hard to get clippers with this kind of flow. Lets see if this EL Nino is followed by a strong La Nina next year, if so the results will be different. Oh and BTW I still expect a major storm close to home the first few days of February. This far out it could be north of us or south of us. I'm fairly confident that somewhere between central Minnesota to southern Iowa will experience the worst of it.

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    3. you supposed experts should make the call. That's what people want to know.
      Instead we read statements like "between central mn and southern iowa".
      You are so afraid of being wrong that you become obvious.
      I am confident that someone in the US will get a tornado this May.
      Come'on. Take some risks. Make a call.
      Then we can debate the how and why you came to that conclusion.
      This blog would be a lot more interesting.

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    4. @Nathan...it's irresponsible to "make the call" this far out.

      I think this is a good example. How much money right now would you put on any team winning the Superbowl next year? Sure there might be a sign or two that some team would be good, but with so many factors that have to play out between now and then (free agency, draft, a long off-season, playing all 16 reg season games, playoffs), I would guess people would be hesitant to empty their savings accounts on placing that bet on 1 team, right now.

      That's what you are asking these meteorologists to do...to risk their credibility by saying there's "going to be a storm hitting town X on date X with X inches", when the air mass isn't even over the US yet. Don't worry...they are as excited as you for the prospect of a storm, and they are sharing every up-to-the-minute insight they have. It's more insight than you'll ever get on the evening news, so just appreciate it.

      OK, done ranting.

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    5. @ Nathan...really? You expect someone to "take a risk" this far out? This blog is already interesting. It's fun to know that there will be a storm, somewhere in our part of the country. The fun is seeing how each subsequent model run handles it and then as we get closer where it will actually land.

      I love this blog! I've been following since the beginning. I'm getting tired of the more recent posters who are either very quick to point the flaws in everyone or are quick to mention how little snow or how boring the weather is.

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    6. Agree with your sentiments on both the far-out risks and the recent posters who whine. I'm trying to police that so the blog doesn't suffer in overall quality.

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    7. That's exactly my point.
      If you are a Vegas bookie your job is to make the call in terms of odds for next year's Superbowl.
      That's your job.
      If you are a meteorologist, your job is to predict the weather. I am sorry, but I feel like you guys are so afraid to make mistakes that you are paralized in your forecast, and you hide beyond the uncertainty to cover your a***.
      A forecast telling me that someone in the upper midwest will possibly get a storm is not of any use to me. I already know it.
      You should be much bolder and this blog will light up.
      Believe me.

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  10. The above statements are correct. It is pretty irresponsible to make any exact predictions this far out. Here are some general thoughts though, that I feel confident enough in sharing.

    First off, I'm fairly confident that there will be a large storm system that will move across the central plains and upper midwest next week. Models are showing a powerful jet streak coming on shore. It rounds the base of the trough, and moves up towards this area.

    I'm confident that California will see some beneficial rains, although any heavy rain would pose its own problems out there. Mountain snows should be fairly significant too.

    Jet structure and overall dynamics look great at this point, which increases confidence on the storm development. The big question will be when and where the northern and southern stream interact (phase) with each other, as this will help to steer the overall track.

    I don't believe this will be a "too warm for snow" situation, unless of course the track ends up too far west. All these details will work themselves out over the next week. The big thing to keep in mind here, is that we are still a week away from this. The main energy for the system is forecast to come ashore late in the weekend, and there are usually quite a few changes once more of that data gets into the model runs.

    Sorry that I can't be more exact than that, but given how the winter has gone so far, even good looking systems have found a way to miss.

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  11. My prediction: this storm looks increasing good for us all week, building bigger and bigger and bigger, then at the last minute, we watch it slide juuuuust to our south and east.

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    1. It certainly could! It still bares watching, but of course expect more things to change.

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  12. Looks like this one will be a fun one to watch. Most models are in pretty solid agreement relative to how far out this is. Obviously the SLP tracks vary a good amount, but overall there are pretty strong signals all over the place. Euro currently has it digging more south, GFS pretty much has us in the bullseye. It doesn't look like temps will be an issue here and even if QPF is overdone at this stage (probably), moisture should not be an issue either.

    A ways to go and a lot will change, but I'm just glad there's something to watch.

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    1. This is STRICTLY model porn at this point, but boy is it fun to look at and dream...

      http://i.imgur.com/MoZgej6.jpg

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    2. Model porn? Great phrase.

      I'm amazed the things even try to get specific this far out.

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  13. Many of the 12z Euro ensembles coming much farther NW than yesterday and last night. The operational Euro 12 run looks a bit like the GFS, but a bit deeper. If the energy rounds the base of the west coast trough and winds itself up quickly as modeled, this has a good chance of being a classic western lakes cutter. As Duane mentioned, the energy won't get picked up by the network for a few more days and is expected to hit the coast this weekend. Expect some swings in the models.

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    1. One of your readers(Nathan) wanted a call. So I was making a call. Its OK to have a little fun if your not taking a personal shot Bill.

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    2. Ok, Thomas your post was deleted. I dont know What it said,but I would assume it was related to you making a call. I have no idea what that call was, but it's not OK to have a little fun here. There are some that come here to see what peeps are saying, not to see who is having fun

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  16. Wow Bill, California has changed you. You used to have fun on here.

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    1. Nah, I'm still a smartass, Thomas. What you said certainly wasn't that bad, but the people I respect are sensing the tone of the comments slipping into negative whining. So I'm trying to put a stop to that... and it's not an exact science. Sort of like the NFL probably has to be aggressive with helmet-to-helmet shots when it requires judgement calls. Hang in there.

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  17. Its just funny that with all of this technology now a days that weather people aint accurate. If i was right only 20% of the time at workmi would be fired. But then you guys can always saynoh this dry air slipped in from no where...ill just go by the old weather rock..if the rock is moving its windy, if the rock is wet its raining, if the rockmis white its snowing.

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    1. This is not adding anything to the conversation.

      As far as weather goes it is a very volatile and hard to predict concept, especially this far out on a storm. Difficult to determine what will happen with a system whose energy is not even on land yet. Sure it may be frustrating at times with the weather not "working out", but whining about it here solves nothing. This is a place for discussion on the possibilities such as Duane did.

      All the best,

      Stormgeek

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    2. If you look into the statistics of forecasting the weather you will see a far greater value than "20% of the time" being right. Its unfortunate people still make these comments. A lot of technology but much more needed to understand and totally sample the atmosphere and then calculate what it might do in the future. I have a weather rock, tree and shell, too -- I just choose to use some more updated means to figure out the weather.

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    3. Let's not forget about how many times forecasters are correct when predicting pleasant weather. The only time people notice a wrong 4cast is when you miss on precipitation placement; even if you only miss by a few miles.

      With that being said, I would guess 4casts are correct at least 90% of the time.

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  18. As of now the focus should still be on water vapor imagery in the Pacific as we watch the very impressive Pacific jet stream. You can see the intense vortices in the flow and this is a strong sign of a strong and dynamic system. Maybe tomorrow the first baroclinic leaf develops but likely so when it slams into the California coast. THEN we can track it into the Sierras then Rockies and see how the models handle it. Should be interesting!

    Here is one of many places to view it: http://wwwghcc.msfc.nasa.gov/GOES/goeswestpacuswv.html

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    1. All very good points. I'm definitely looking forward to this thing coming ashore to see how things shift around. Certainly a fun look out in the Pacific at the moment. Thanks for sharing that link.

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  19. Anonymous from early onJanuary 27, 2016 at 8:49 AM

    I don't know Bill, not sure what Thomas said for you to react that way but it seems more and more if you don't have weather knowledge then you don't want to here from them. Feels like the good ole boys club. This site used to be for layman weather enthusiasts who commented on all things weather, positive or negative. Now it seems you need to know weather to speak up. Example its OK to say Bring It for snowstorms but the second someone wishes for no snow and challenges the so called experts here, its deemed negative and your comment is deleted. And Randyinchamplin its OK to have fun even on a weather board.

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    1. I respectfully disagree. I think over the last year there has been an influx of unproductive comments with a negative skew. To the level that I stopped checking this site for a while last year because I was sick of the negative anonymous comments. Maybe the description of the blog should change to not be about grading the local forecasters as that may mix the message of what this has really turned in to which is an in depth look at potential weather events and tracking the progress of how forecasters come up with the forecasts they provide the public.

      I see enough negative garbage elsewhere on line. I come here to listen to people far more educated than I on a topic I am interested in.

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    2. I second @anonymous from early on thoughts.

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    3. Thanks for the feedback, Lindsay!

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  20. Yuhas goes early tweeting 4-8, with plenty of changes could occur. Now that's a forecaster with cajoles! Nice job Yuhas!

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    1. And then if/when we end up with a dusting some people on here will then go "Wow what a HUGE missed forecast, he should have known better than to predict totals a week out, how does he still have a job!"

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  21. New thread for possible big one next week?

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    1. This is the new thread for that system! When it was created the event looked like Sun-Mon but has since shifted out a couple days.

      By the way, I agree with Lindsay in Mpls above. The Anonymous posters on this site are getting out of control. It's one thing to be upset when a snow storm forecast doesn't pan out, or be upset when there's a snow storm on the horizon. It's another thing when the Anon users are making PERSONAL complaints about specific users on this site that are only trying to express their weather interpretations and passions.

      So Anon users out there...express your views, but remember this isn't a Facebook or YouTube comments section to troll people.

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    2. JAW -I have to disagree. This current post was for this past Sunday/Monday system as it is dated Jan 22. This "monster" of a storm everyone is currently talking about is slated for Feb 3rdish and would warrant a new thread...even some of the awesome videos Bill and Tom produce

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  22. I honestly hope that my minor rant several threads ago didn't spark this whole ordeal. If it did, I am sorry.

    What irks me, and I think a good amount of other posters, is the "matter-of-fact" way in which the majority of anonymous posts are postured. There's very little substance to their posts and they appear largely based on anecdotal evidence and come across arrogant. "Every storm misses us, this one undoubtedly will, too" DOES NOT contribute to the discussion at all. And while "Bring it!" posts don't contribute either, they seem far, far less frequent than the negative curmudgeon posts lately that seem to exist solely for the purpose of crapping on snowfall prospects and criticizing forecasts.

    This is why I said before that the period of dull weather might be a good time for those who may not have a ton of weather knowledge to read up so they can provide more insightful discussion, but of course people just took offense to that.

    Just to be clear, a meteorologists job is to predict the future. Pretty sure that's difficult and unfortunately meteorologists will never win with the general public.

    And honestly, if you're the type of person that's going to spew the same old "they're wrong 90% of the time but never get fired huehuehue" garbage then why are you even here?

    Anyway, that'll be the last I talk ever about that. Moving on...

    Regarding the upcoming potential itself, recent models runs haven't done us many favors. Seems the latest trend is that the low is digging deeper south and wrapping up/occluding quickly. GFS still looks okay for MSP, but the gradient cuts right across the metro, naturally. Euro and GGEM are a good deal south and currently give us practically nothing. Still, all the hallmarks of a lakes or plains cutter are there and it will continue to be a fun system to watch.

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    1. Not to worry, Neil. I appreciate your contributions!

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    2. Thanks, Bill!

      One thing to add that I forgot to mention is that a lot of people may not know or realize is that there are very limited surface observations in the Pacific Ocean, so models are not sampling this thing very well at all currently. That's why you hear the "wait until it comes onshore" all the time from meteorologists. If a model doesn't have complete grasp on a system when it initiates (hour 0) the run, how can it be expected to be accurate at hour 120 or 168? This is also why it's foolish to "be bold" and give snowfall forecasts this far out.

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  23. Unfortunately Anonymous from early on is correct.
    If you are part of the so-called expert clique you can say whatever you want, belittle those who dare criticize or disagree with you. If you are not, and do the same Bill removes your comment.
    It definitely feels it is becoming an ol' boys club.
    Very disappointing and very sad.

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  24. Wow! What an absolutely beautiful looking Winter Storm for next TUE on the 12z Euro run.
    - Upper Level divergence @ 300mb is robust which indicates strong lift up top.
    - No doubt comma head/trowal @ 700mb indicating a impressive deformation zone
    - Low level 850mb forcing is strong with the 32° temp isotherm surging north into WI but remaining well southeast of MSP metro.
    - Plenty of Arctic air to work with.
    - Plenty of Gulf moisture being pulled up ahead of the massive western US trough.

    If all of comes to fruition, we can expect a Blizzard near or in the MSP metro by WED am. We certainly haven't seen a model solution like this one in the last couple of years.

    Time will tell.

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    1. The 12Z Euro is definitely interesting, but I have a hard time believing that the low would turn left/north that abruptly right towards the high in Canada.

      Solid run for us, but I'm a little suspicious of the track it shows. However I know far, far less than you so I am curious if I am just missing something. Thoughts?

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    2. Neil I have the same concern. Can a low pressure system really barrel north like the 12z Euro shows right into a 1030MB high? Or is the high shifting east right before the low makes its move north? Low pressure systems like to latch around the departing high pressures, so maybe that is what is being depicted? I'm hoping Dr Novak can address this.

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  25. Can we stay on topic everyone. I don't like having to filter through all the non-weather BS. If something or someone "ruffles your feathers" bite you tongue and move on. Please keep in mind that Bill can shut this down at moments notice. I, then, would be very, very crabby.

    This is a great site to get the latest Wx insights and reports with, I feel, more accuracy than the local Mets.

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  26. New thread (and video with Dr. Novak) on next week's storm possibility will appear at some point this Wednesday evening.

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    1. Looking forward to it! Those videos really help me learn some stuff. As a younger generation weather fanatic I always enjoy the discussion.

      -Stormgeek

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    2. Great! Feel free to suggest any questions you'd like answered.

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    3. Bill, Neil and I have questions about what the Euro showed on the 12z run. See above. It's been a hot topic on other weather forums this afternoon as well. Thanks!

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    4. Bill - my question for Dr. Novak. Long term models that far out are typically pretty inaccurate and the Euro is not having a great winter. The GFS nailed our last "big" storm much better. So while it's fun to talk weather, is it really worth discussing this early.

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    5. Thanks, Dave. Will bring your question up in the video, which we plan to do around 8 tonight. (So figure it will be online closer to 9.)

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  27. KSTP is calling for blizzard a week away. Sad really!

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    1. Where did you see/hear that? Did they really say "blizzard?"

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    2. A deadly storm recently slammed Japan and is heading east. That system should arrive in the Central USA sometime on Monday/Tuesday of next week. Current model data suggests this could become a blizzard with heavy snow and high winds somewhere in the plains through the Twin Cities; potentially even impacting the Iowa Caucus (depending on timing). Keep in mind this is still several days away and a lot can change. But if the current track and strength holds, these type of systems usually lead to our biggest snowstorms in the Twin Cities.
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    3. I wouldn't characterize that as "calling for a blizzard." More like alerting to the possibility of one. But interesting to see.

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  28. Ah yes, a week away and the hype machine gets cranked up anyway. The changes of this disappointing are extremely high. Being in the "bullseye" at this point is probably a bad omen. How many times do models get it exactly right a week out?

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    2. Typically, exactly right a week out doesn't happen. Models can pick up on a system a week out, showing that there will be a storm in general, but as far as an exact bullseye being depicted a week out isn't usually too accurate. It's why a broad brush of things is much better at this range, which I've seen some forecasters doing. A good example will be out east with their most recent storm. Models picked up on that one a week out, and stuck with it. They ended up being pretty darn close to being right with the hardest hit areas. People like advanced warning, especially in weather situations. It just has to be worded carefully when giving warning to people.

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    3. Where is the hype? Who is hyping this. Please give examples.

      Discussion of a potential blizzard does not automatically mean hype.

      You guys complain when the weather is benign and then the moment something pops up on the horizon and we discuss it you cry hype. There really is no way to satisfy you, is there?

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    4. Okay, well I did find one hype machine, and of course it's TWC...

      http://theweatherforums.com/uploads/monthly_01_2016/post-87-0-62110200-1453935530.png

      Honestly somewhat surprised they haven't named it yet then...

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    5. Yep, I'd classify that as hype given that it's a week away.

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  29. There have been some that mentioned "other blogs" or as MNWx mentioned above "...other weather forums...". Can these be identified?

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    1. The two websites I frequent the most are http://www.americanwx.com/bb/ and http://theweatherforums.com/

      There's also https://stormtrack.org/forums/ for the severe weather season.

      AccuWeather has a forum as well but I typically don't visit often so I'm not sure of the quality of discussion.

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  30. @Bill, If you realize it or not your aiding and abating the good ole boys(girls) club. After Anonymous from early on made his comment you knowledged every poster that disagreed with him and ignored every poster that agreed with him. Do we need to ask for permission if we don't agree snow is coming and we don't agree with all the "experts" in this club.

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    1. I'm encouraging people who provide what I consider to be worthwhile input. I don't care if they're new or old or accomplished mets or interested weather enthusiasts. And I'm done with this topic. This blog is about weather.

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  31. Just a side note for those who think our winters can be bad. Take a look at the forecast for Mount Shasta, CA. Wind gusts of 115mph, and snow totals measured in several feet. This is, of course, the norm for them. You can tell it is normal, because there is no type of winter weather headline out for it. Just another day in the mountains.

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    1. How is the windchill only in the teens below zero with winds that high?

      http://forecast.weather.gov/MapClick.php?w0=t&w1=td&w2=wc&w3=sfcwind&w3u=1&w4=sky&w5=pop&w6=rh&w7=rain&w8=thunder&w9=snow&w10=fzg&w11=sleet&AheadHour=48&FcstType=graphical&textField1=41.4093&textField2=-122.195&site=all&unit=0&dd=&bw=&BackDay.x=41&BackDay.y=11

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  32. OK..I will appease you and talk weather Bill. This potential "storm" if that's what you want to call it is pretty much a slam dunk to forecast. Cold high will suppress the storm to the south, setting up a tight gradient causing MSP to be on the very northern fringe of snowfall. 1-3" looks good. 1" north of MSP and 3" south of MSP. Latest GFS agrees. Let's see the fallout now.

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  33. Model shown for weather porn. Check.
    Novak says beautiful atmosphere for storm. Check.
    Video coming. Check.
    Ebb and flow in models, bullseye then no bullseye. Check.

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  34. New thread and new video just added. Enjoy!

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