Who's crystal clear and who's all wet when it to comes to Minnesota weather forecasters?
Snow showers are beginning to dot the local weather forecasts. It's inevitable and pretty much on time. What are your thoughts about the upcoming winter?
Okay, friends of the weather. Here is what NOAA is cranking out for the Twin Cities Metro Tuesday, Oct 20: "Tuesday: Snow showers before 2pm, then rain and snow showers. High near 39. Southeast wind 5 to 10 mph. Chance of precipitation is 80%. New snow accumulation of 2 to 4 inches possible." We shall see! Maybe it's time for PWL to start dancing.
First, welcome everyone to another hopefully fun-filled season here at TMF! I hope everyone is staying safe and was able to enjoy the "off season". As for Tuesday, it is appearing at least a couple inches for the southern half of MN is looking likely. As always, time will tell! Let's get this season off to a snowy start!!
Newest GFS showing 6+ in and around the metro for Tuesday. Interesting times if that occurs. Would be the largest earliest snowfall EVER! Go big or go home!!
The UKMET run that runs 144 hours is putting some serious snow down over the TC metro through next Saturday. Dont know how accurate it is.
So the latest 12z models are in for Tuesday and they ALL show a healthy amount of snow as follows:-EURO 6+-NAM 8+-GFS 4+-UKMET 7+-GDPS(Canadian) 5+Keep in mind 10/29/1905 was the last time we received 4+ in the Twin Cities(5.5”)
That 1905 date was the earliest 4” or more. We have received lesser snow amounts before 10/29, but this Tuesday COULD shatter the “earliest” significant snowfall. We shall see.
Oh my goodness!! This didn't come out of nowhere, but seems to be gaining strength in a surprising fashion!! My dancing shoes are being dusted off and shined as we speak. The dancing will commence shortly. I might need to take this slowly as I am in "out of season" form, but trust me....dancing will happen very soon. Very soon!Break a record - may as well! Bring it!!!
Good to be back and tracking winter entertainment with everyone!
Welcome Jaw...definitely agree!
Not to look ahead at all. But I seen on novaks page that some forecasters are already talking about a possible deadly blizzard next weekend with 1-2 feet of snow...I dont know how accurate it is but holy cow if that happens...
In these uncertain and crazy times, it's nice to see all the familiar names again! Cheers to the start of the 2020-21 snow season!
Novak video tonight at 7 p.m. on FB to discuss tomorrow's snow event.
Looks like we’re still step up for our first dose of significant snows of the season for tomorrow and a record breaker for so early in a season. All the models I mentioned yesterday still have anywhere from 6-8+” from their 12z model runs.Thursday appears to be a strictly rain maker for the metro with perhaps a bit of snow to finish(good, health snows with this one in northern MN)Late Saturday/Sunday could be another significant snow maker for Minnesota, with indications currently having Southern MN more inline for that snow.Interesting week ahead for sure!!
Just watched most of Novak's video on FB. I like the one comment of 'Where's Bill?' Looks to be a wild week, and he said for those who don't get 'enough snow' tomorrow to be happy that there are more chances through the weekend with possible thunderstorms Thursday, esp. in the southern part of the state. Roller coaster to be sure. He's still got the metro in the 3-5" tally. And he may do an update video tomorrow. Maybe he will come onto the blog here, and I hope I got my facts straight!
That is 3-5" with the Tuesday storm.
Holy cow the GFSv16 is dropping 12 inches over the TC in the run just coming in.
For tomorrow's storm, Thursday's, or Sunday's?
So what’s the dealio with the potential weekend storm? Novak is being a bit cryptic with how people should make plans, but he also called talk of a mega storm “fake news.” Thoughts? I’m a follower but not someone with the time to analyze models.
Those that were posting about a mega storm were showing run total snowfall amounts, that indeed showed close to 2 feet per the Gem, but remember that was the total for two storms. Seems as if the models are starting to show higher QPF for tomorrows event. We could see some pretty good dynamic cooling from the precip falling through the column. Wouldn't be surprised to see a upgrade to a warning.
Man I thought the same thing a bit earlier Randy.Welcome back sir!
Some subtle changes to the going forecast as the snow is about to fly in regards to any upgrade to a warning. Forecast snowfall increased to 5-7” from the original 3-5”. Also this was discussed in this morning’s AFD.... Hi- res models indicate the potential for aband of slightly higher accumulations (pushing Warning-criteriaamounts) as 700-600mb mid- level frontogenesis flourishes between18Z-21z as corroborated by an impressive pocket of progged -15Comega over central MN.Going to be an interesting day with some surprises!
I would be surprised to see us upgraded to a warning. The ground is still warm; it will take awhile to stick and it will melt from the bottom up. I don't think the travel impact will be warning criteria, but I'm glad my husband is working from home today!
Ive been tracking these since Sept 25.Popcorn in handaka unit28Peace out....
Some will be baffled....
NWS bumped it up to 5-7 inches now
Here it comes...
Let's just break the all-time October record with is 8.2 (?) on October 31 as part of the Halloween Blizzard.Let's do this. Radar is impressive! Bring it!!!!!
That would be something else! NWS has upped the evening snow totals, so anything is possible. 3-5 today and 1-3 tonight metro current forecast........
Coming down hard in Eden Prairie now.
As Randy and I suspected, we now have a WINTER STORM WARNING going right thru the heart of the metro!!Maybe,just maybe PWL will get his wish and break the October record!
Snowing moderately in Maple Grove/Plymouth. Everything is white! Too bad it looks like Thursday's storm will wash it all away. Although, I concede today's snowfall is early even for the metro, given the average high temperature now is still in the mid-50's. However, a guy can still dream!! Let it snow!
Just took 5 measurements here in Plymouth. All of them came in at 6 inches...and counting!
A solid 6 inches in Waconia and still snowing, though the last heavy band has moved out.
Any chance of Thursday's storm coming farther south and giving the metro more snow?
With the current trends there is a possibility MSP may receive some snow on Thursday before switching to rain/sleet.
9 inches so far here in Burnsville with light snow still falling
What a sweet snow event. KARE11 reports that the 7.4" at the MSP airport breaks a daily record AND is the most snow recorded this early AND pulls into second place as 2nd snowiest Oct day behind the good old Halloween Blizzard of '91. Nice.
Shifts in Thursday's track continues. GFS brining wintry mix into the metro now with the snow line not far away.
.UPDATE...Issued at 911 PM CDT Wed Oct 21 2020Trends from the HRRR/RAP are shedding some uncertainty into thegoing winter storm forecast. Both of these models have nudged thecentral MN snow band north a tad, keeping the heaviest snow northof AXN. They have also bumped QPF totals down a bit, with WAAprecip farther southeast likely impacting quality of moistureavailable up there. However, haven`t changed the snow forecastmuch, as when looking at the GEFS plumes from 18z, it absolutelyslams AXN over toward Mille Lacs, with snow totals off a 10:1 snowratio ranging from 5-12 inches (RAP/HRRR fall below that range).Other bit of uncertainty the HRRR/RAP brings in is with where thezone of mixed precip ends up residing. Both have this zone endingup pretty close to Mankato up through the Twin Cities, east of ourcurrent advisory. That`s the bad news, the good news is thepredominate p-type they produce with this mix is sleet, notfreezing rain. Was on the fence about sweeping Watonwan, BlueEarth, Brown, and Nicollet counties into the advisory, where morefreezing rain is depicted by the HRRR, but decided to wait and seeif we actually see surface temps drop below freezing before theprecip arrives.Looks like some uncertainty with the going forecast, my guess is the advisory will be extended into the metro due to more issues with the mix as opposed to a liquid event
KMSP...It`s either going to be 35 and raining much of the day atMSP, or 33 with mostly sleet and freezing rain. We`re stillkeeping things on the milder side, but we could certainly more mixthan currently indicated in the TAF.The newest aviation forecast for MSP doesn’t really show much confidence for our weather tomorrow. Could be a messy one, pay attention!
Winter and snow???? Come roaring back in a week! Get your fall cleanup done this week with the mild temperatures. Because a week from today changes will be in the air.
Are you telling me 2020 might have more surprises for us?
I will definitely take today's 70 degrees. Wow!
The Halloween Blizzard.
So nobody’s talking about it.....I’ll start.....tomorrow is going to surprise many people! After such a long warm spell, clash of seasons about to commence. I wouldn’t be surprised to see 3-6” of snow in or near MSP tomorrow
Yeah, NWS put out a Winter Storm Watch that includes the metro... time for a new thread!
I have added a new thread for Tuesday's fun.