Who's crystal clear and who's all wet when it to comes to Minnesota weather forecasters?
Showing posts with label Novak Weather. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Novak Weather. Show all posts
Thursday, February 22, 2018
Snowiest Week of the Year?
Snow lovers in Minnesota can hardly contain themselves as two significant snowstorms, nearly back-to-back, appear headed for the Twin Cities. For some background on the possibilities, check out the video we did with Tom Novak. Happy storm watching!
Friday, January 19, 2018
Probabilistic Thinking
As some of you know, I'm a big fan of probabilistic forecasting and the work of the Capital Weather Gang when it comes to snow forecasts. Here are the high, low and expected snowfall forecasts for MSP as of Friday morning for the Sunday/Monday event.
Did you miss our last video with Novak Weather?
Happy storm track monitoring!
Happy storm track monitoring!
Wednesday, October 1, 2014
"S" Word Makes Annual Debut (Kinda Early)
If winter's not your thing (in which case what the heck are you living in Minnesota for?), you're probably quaking in your boots. If you're a winter lover, your day is drawing near, possibly much sooner than you dreamed possible.
Several weather outlets are introducing the possibility of a little snow Friday night into Saturday morning. An arresting thought to be sure. Seems like it's almost time to cue up one of our favorite songs.
Here are a few graphics that capture the potentially wintry weather headed our way just days into the official beginning of meteorologic fall.
Several weather outlets are introducing the possibility of a little snow Friday night into Saturday morning. An arresting thought to be sure. Seems like it's almost time to cue up one of our favorite songs.
Here are a few graphics that capture the potentially wintry weather headed our way just days into the official beginning of meteorologic fall.
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| NWS Forecast |
Wednesday, February 26, 2014
More Cold... and a Little More Snow
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| Graphic depicting volume of sub-zero cold. |
And how cold has it been? I thought the graphic to the right was particularly instructive, showing a total of almost 20 full days of sub-zero weather. It would appear we're headed to challenge the largest number of sub-zero hours at MSP airport since 1946.
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Tuesday, January 14, 2014
Grading Jan. 13-14 Storm (and what was Chris Shaffer thinking?)
It’s been a while since we’ve graded forecasters. In truth that’s because there hasn’t been much interesting weather (i.e., snowstorms) and because there’s been little forecaster variance. This time, however, we feel compelled to highlight the particularly poor forecast by WCCO’s Chris Shaffer.
Here’s an excerpt from Shaffer’s forecast on the 6 p.m. news last night on WCCO. He said that “most of us will see less than an inch.” He went against all others and consistent model data. It seems he looked at one rogue model solution and ran with it. With the 4.4” of snow that fell, we think that most viewers would call this a poor forecast.
While a bad forecast is one thing, coming out 24 hours later and implying it was just what you expected is harder to swallow. Here’s a video capture from a segment of his 6 p.m. weathercast from Tuesday night. There’s the clear implication that the storm was what he expected (“just a little snow) yet he actually brings forth reported totals that are in excess of the totals he’s trying to validate. And how can he continue to call this “not much snow” when it caused snow emergencies in both major metropolitan cities? The fact is that we received one of the biggest snowfalls of the season with 4.4” and much of the metro received 3-5”. That’s a solid snowstorm in most peoples’ books.
Not surprisingly, we have to give Chris Shaffer’s forecast an F. Here are our grades for the efforts of other local forecasters:
WCCO: F. A poor forecast and an even poorer follow-up self assessment.
KSTP: B. More aggressive than most with a 2-4” forecast, but not aggressive enough. Also emphasized 2-3" with "spots seeing 4".
KMSP: C. Too conservative at 1-3 inches.
KARE: C. Same as KMSP
NWS: B+. They were consistent in forecasting 2-4” and, appropriately, issued an advisory.
Strib: C. Todd Nelson’s 1-3” forecast was too conservative.
MPR: C. While noting forecast volatility, was too conservative at 1-3”
Novak Weather: A. Refer to this video (beginning at 11:45).
Here’s an excerpt from Shaffer’s forecast on the 6 p.m. news last night on WCCO. He said that “most of us will see less than an inch.” He went against all others and consistent model data. It seems he looked at one rogue model solution and ran with it. With the 4.4” of snow that fell, we think that most viewers would call this a poor forecast.
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| Chris Shaffer forecast from 6 p.m. WCCO newscast. |
While a bad forecast is one thing, coming out 24 hours later and implying it was just what you expected is harder to swallow. Here’s a video capture from a segment of his 6 p.m. weathercast from Tuesday night. There’s the clear implication that the storm was what he expected (“just a little snow) yet he actually brings forth reported totals that are in excess of the totals he’s trying to validate. And how can he continue to call this “not much snow” when it caused snow emergencies in both major metropolitan cities? The fact is that we received one of the biggest snowfalls of the season with 4.4” and much of the metro received 3-5”. That’s a solid snowstorm in most peoples’ books.
Not surprisingly, we have to give Chris Shaffer’s forecast an F. Here are our grades for the efforts of other local forecasters:
WCCO: F. A poor forecast and an even poorer follow-up self assessment.
KSTP: B. More aggressive than most with a 2-4” forecast, but not aggressive enough. Also emphasized 2-3" with "spots seeing 4".
KMSP: C. Too conservative at 1-3 inches.
KARE: C. Same as KMSP
NWS: B+. They were consistent in forecasting 2-4” and, appropriately, issued an advisory.
Strib: C. Todd Nelson’s 1-3” forecast was too conservative.
MPR: C. While noting forecast volatility, was too conservative at 1-3”
Novak Weather: A. Refer to this video (beginning at 11:45).
Sunday, March 3, 2013
Major March Snowstorm Expected by All Forecasters
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| Yes, it's once again time to stare out the window at falling snow. |
Six to ten inches of snow seems to be the magic phrase. The Star Tribune blog (Paul Douglas), last updated shortly before noon, details 5-8" of snow, a bit lower than the consensus. The KMSP (Fox) forecast was a hair above the consensus at 7 to 11 inches.
WCCO: 6-10 (5 p.m. news)
KSTP: 6-10 (5:30 p.m. news)
KMSP: 7-11 (5:30 p.m. news)
KARE: 6-10 (5 p.m. news)
NWS: 6-10 (weather.gov)
Strib/Paul Douglas: 5-8
MPR: (no original entry; cited NWS info)
Accuweather: 6-10
TWC: 6-10
Novak Weather: 8-10 (but warns conservative)
Chase the Plains: 8-9
Shakopee Weather: 6-9
Note: The NWS in La Crosse has MSP in the 9-13 inch range.
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Monday, December 10, 2012
Analysis of Forecaster Performance for Dec. 9 Storm
The final total for this weekend’s snowstorm was 10.5 at
the official MSP airport recording station. The core metro area snowfall ranged
from 9 to 14 inches with an even foot of snow a common observation, including here at TMF headquarters in St. Paul.
No forecaster anticipated the possibly of a truly major
snowfall until late Saturday afternoon. Even then, most forecasts did not fully
capture the extent of the burgeoning snowstorm. (Note, for weather geeks
looking to get a meteorological explanation for the late-changing forecast, MPR
provides a good analysis here.)
Rather than provide forecaster grades as we have in the
past, we’ll focus on a few general observations. Given that we don’t capture
forecast activity in a truly systematic, day-by-day manner, we feel that the
assignment of grades suggests a level of authority and exactness we simply
don’t have. Still, we believe we monitor the forecasts enough to offer
reasonable opinions. As always, take them for what they’re worth. We invite
readers to provide grades and thoughts in the comment section to this post.
Our observations:
The best performers for this storm were the National Weather
Service (NWS) and Novak Weather. Most other forecast outlets did not
distinguish themselves.
Virtually all forecasters eyed this storm for the better
part of a week. However, several minimized the storm as recently as Thursday.
On Thursday, KMSP tweeted, “Winter returns the next few days, flurries late Fri
afternoon, flurries Sat and wicked cold by Mon.” On Thursday evening, the Star
Tribune noted the possibility of 1-3 inches
of “oatmeal-like slush,” jokingly suggesting it would be cause to contact MnDOT
and the National Guard. Likewise, the Weather Channel noted the possibility of
mere “snow showers” over the weekend. At the same time, however, other
forecasters were not ready to conclude the storm would be a minimal, back-page
item.
KMSP was Jekyll & Hyde on this one. After the overly
minimizing tweet on Thursday, they had the best standing prediction on Friday night
with a forecast of 6-8 inches. But by Saturday, they’d revised it downward to 4.1
inches (the “snow meter.”)
The NWS consistently predicted higher amounts than the
majority of forecasters 36 hours prior to the storm’s arrival. Some
readers/viewers may have wondered whether a winter storm warning for MSP would
prove to be warranted; clearly, it was.
Novak Weather also lead the way on this forecast, staying
the course of a forecast of 6+ inches for MSP from early on. On Saturday
afternoon, Novak Weather was also the first to communicate the possibility that
accumulations could “get out of hand quickly for MSP” on Sunday as they
ultimately did.
The separation of men from boys on this forecast took place
Saturday afternoon and evening. Some forecasters picked up on the
late-developing possibility of a truly significant snowfall while others did
not. As detailed in the previous post, forecasts by KSTP (Jonathan
Yuhas) and KMSP (Steve Frazier) missed the boat in not noting the late change in the storm’s
evolution (though it should be noted that other members of the KSTP forecasting team tweeted 5-8 inch forecasts at the same time Yuhas was on air forecasting 3-6 inches).
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